[ASLML] CC Infiltration

[Bruce Bakken]

>
> >Frankly, I don't care enough about this particular issue to bash heads 
>over
> >it too much longer.
>
>Just as well, Bruce, because I'm afraid you're quite wrong ... and Tate 
>(and
>everyone else) has it exactly correct.
>

Well, I can live with that.

I don't feel that strongly about it, and evidently I haven't been making 
much sense, either!  Oh, well.  It wouldn't be the first time that my 
thoughts didn't find clear expression...

> >
> >2. It is not possible for both sides to Withdraw due to Infiltration due 
>to
> >an Original DR that results in Leader Creation.
>
>Well, no, but it is possible for both sides to roll a "2".  Both sides may
>choose to Withdraw (the ATTACKER decides first, however).
>

Nope.  I know I do not agree with this.

First, the ATTACKER's "2", if it eliminates the DEFENDER, prohibits the 
DEFENDER from Withdrawing... "Provided it has not already been 
eliminated..."

Second, if an ATTACKER rolls an Original 2 CC DR, it is allowed to Withdraw 
"without being attacked".  Indeed, that unit must Withdraw even before any 
Friendly units make their CC DR.  That's what "immediately" means.

Maybe Tate can address this better than I, because he was arguing that 
"making a CC DR" is the same as making an "attack".  I.e., the act of making 
the DR is the act of attacking.

If an ATTACKER Withdraws "without being attacked", for what reason would the 
DEFENDER make its attack DR?  There is no longer any target to attack.  Or 
does the DEFENDER roll its attack anyway, just for grins <g>, in the hopes 
of rolling a "2"?

(Remember, the DR are not made simultaneously, they are made sequentially... 
ATTACKER first.)

... and I'm still waiting to learn where it says that a created Leader can 
split off of its creating MMC, i.e. one Withdraw and the other not Withdraw 
due to Infiltration.  Since both have participated in the attack (as if the 
leader were present all along), then both must Withdraw...

Bah.

Regards,
Bruce Bakken

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