[ASLML] CC Infiltration

Bruce Bakken bebakken at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 17 19:21:39 PST 2004


>
>A11.22: "If the option to withdraw is taken, it must be done immediately; 
>the unit cannot wait to make its own attack (if it has not yet done so) or 
>see the outcome of other attacks before leaving."
>
>This part is specific to rolling 12 not 2.
>
>Also, notice the "(if it has not yet done so)" part. If I have rolled a 
>snakes then I have "done so", correct? Thus my attack has already taken 
>place and there is no choice. If the enemy rolls a 12 you have to decide 
>whether to stay or go before making your attack (assuming you haven't 
>already). In the case of a snakes it is obvious that you have already 
>rolled your attack and the results of that attack are applied whether one 
>stays or goes.
>

I see your point, certainly.

Frankly, I don't care enough about this particular issue to bash heads over 
it too much longer.

There is one small matter that I wish you would interpret for me.  It's 
found in A18.12, and pertains to Leader Creation.

"Unless one or both sides Withdraw due to Infiltration (11.22), both attacks 
are re-figured using both of the originally-rolled Original DRs and the new 
leader's FP/Leadership just as if he had been there all along."

Some points here.

1. When the attacking unit rolls an Original 2 CC DR, only that attacking 
unit is eligible to Withdraw due to Infiltration.

2. It is not possible for both sides to Withdraw due to Infiltration due to 
an Original DR that results in Leader Creation.

3. Only one side may Withdraw due to an Original 2 CC DR, so the phrase 
"unless one or both sides Withdraw" is not only inaccurate, it is impossible 
in this case.

4. If neither side Withdraws, both attacks are re-figured.  Since the 
defending unit is ineligible to Withdraw in this case, this really means 
that if the attacking unit does not Withdraw, the attack is re-figured.

Here's my question:  What happens -- according to A18.12 -- if "one side" 
(the only side that can Withdraw, the attacker making the Original DR) 
withdraws?  Is only one attack "re-figured"?  Is neither attack 
"re-figured"?  Where is there evidence to support an answer for either 
question?

Again, the rules proper are not as clear as you make them out to be.

Only the EX is clear, and that really only gives an example of sequential CC 
(or an ATTACKER making the CC DR).

[You probably already know that the ATTACKER holds a tremendous advantage 
when it comes to Infiltration.  It's a patently unfair rule, considering 
that it is supposed to occur during "simultaneous" CC -- in the sense that 
"unfair" means "is not impartial", even though it is probably intended to 
be.]


Regards,
Bruce Bakken

>Later-
>
>Tater (One Mean Spud!)
>

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