[ASLML] Carrier C question

[Bruce Bakken]

>
> >"Lots"?  I don't think there are "lots" of differences.
>
>I once had a professor who had converted from Christianity to Islam,
>which I found strange since I do not see much difference in the two
>religions. He replied that I had a failure to see difference.
>

Okay, so you're the professor and I'm the student who fails to see...

> >First an AFV beneath a Trench.
>
>The location contains an entrenchment that non-fully tracked vehicles
>cannot enter, fully tracked vehicles much chance bog, and friendly
>infantry have very good protection while in it.

This speaks to the Location itself and not strictly with the original 
question, which was the difference between a Dug-In AFV and one beneath a 
Trench.

A Dug-In AFV can be placed in the same Location as a Trench and the Location 
still receives the characteristics you just describe.

>receives +4 to OBA attacks and +2 to on-board Mortar attacks. Finally,
>elevation effects can reduce the tank to OG status (no HD).
>

Yes, I seem to have overlooked Indirect Fire.  Elevation Effects is a good 
one as well, though I suspect it is very rare.

> >D9.51: "... Immobilization TC are never required."
> >Presumably, neither are
> >they required for an entrenched AFV, since an Immobilization
> >could never
> >occur (HD, dont' you know).
>
>Immobilization can still occur due to indirect fire attacks/CC/height
>effects. After being immobilized, any qualifying attack could cause an
>Immobilization TC.
>

The qualifying attack in this case would have to be from Direct Fire.

> >Have I missed something?
>
>Yes, a couple of things. By my count it looks like at least 5 or 6
>differences, some of which are pretty important.
>

There are some important differences as you say, but still not that many.

1. The Dug-In AFV is considered Immobile (for CC purposes)
2. The Dug-In AFV has an automatic +1 Target Size (unless actually +2)
3. The entrenched AFV uses Trench TEM for OBA and Indirect Fire
4. The entrenched AFV is susceptible to Immobilization and Immobilization TC 
under certain conditions

I find your Zen-like approach to answers ("yes, lots") to be very unhelpful 
for those hoping to learn from the discussions on the ASLML.  At least a 
mention of the differences is helpful to interested parties.

Regards,
Bruce Bakken

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