[ASLML] Carrier C question

[Bruce Bakken]

>
> >One more thing. Is there a difference between a "dug-in tank"
> >and a tank beneath a trench counter?
>
>Yes, lots.
>
>

"Lots"?  I don't think there are "lots" of differences.  Let's have a look.

First an AFV beneath a Trench.

B27.51: "... but 5/8" counters may not be removed from that trench counter 
during play..."

B27.52: "Any vehicle beneath a trench counter is considered HD, but may not 
change its VCA or expend a Start MP."

Not a lot mentioned there.  Interestingly, an AFV beneath a Trench is still 
considered Mobile (per Index) because it is not Abandoned, Bogged, 
Immobilized, or Mired, even though an AFV beneath a Trench is not able to 
leave that hex or change VCA.  Hmm.

Now for a Dug-In AFV.

D9.5: "... is considered the equivalent of an Immobile tank in every way..." 
  With implications for CC (-1 CC DRM against it).  That's one difference.

D9.51: "... Immobilization TC are never required."  Presumably, neither are 
they required for an entrenched AFV, since an Immobilization could never 
occur (HD, dont' you know).

D9.54:  "... is HD to all Direct Fire attacks... has a +1 Target Size ...  
does not create a Hindrance... does not leave a *wreck* Hindrance..."  So 
the HD effect is the same, and an AFV beneath a Trench also does not leave a 
Hindrance (see the penultimate sentence of D9.4).  The only difference here 
is the +1 Target Size for being Dug-In.

The only other difference I can think of is that a Dug-In AFV is considered 
an Armored Cupola and thus does not have a VCA for purposes of DC Placement. 
  For an entrenched AFV, I would say that Target Facing for a DC is 
determined as per A23.5.  Come to think of it, I'm not sure how Target 
Facing would be handled for a Dug-In AFV, since according to the C7.346 DC 
Placement Table the Target Facing DRM is based upon the Hull.

>From what I can see, these are the only differences between a Dug-In AFV and 
an AFV beneath a Trench:  The Dug-In AFV is considered Immobile (for CC 
purposes), the Dug-In AFV has an automatic +1 Target Size (unless actually 
+2), and a potentially quirky situation for placing a DC on a Dug-In AFV.

Not much difference after all.

Have I missed something?

Regards,
Bruce Bakken

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