[ASLML] Carrier C Mortar hit ?

[Bruce Probst]

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 06:47:57 -0500, "Mountain View Cottage"
<mountainview at westelcom.com> wrote:

>  A MTR attack on a Carrier will only affect a Crew, using the
> +2 CE DRM, via Collateral Attack.

I'm not the one talking about "Collateral Attacks", and it has *nothing* to
do with the argument.  (BTW, your e-mail text-quoting system *sucks*.)  

> It's attack will first be
> considered for potential Kill/Immobilize/Shock vs. the
> Vehicle itself.

Yes, and if Air-Burst/Elevation Advantage applies, per the rules I have
previously quoted extensively, the Carrier (like any other OT AFV) is
treated as being unarmoured.  This is very simple, the rules state it
explicitly, and yet you seem to disagree.

> Plus, it doens't make "sense".

Here's how much, on a scale of 1-10, that the rules "make sense to Mr
Fleury" are important: 0.

Here's how much, on a scale of 1-10, what the rules *actually say* are
important: 11.

> Why doesn't it get "height advantage" there?

Because that's not how the rules describe how you get elevation advantage to
reduce CE DRM.  Surely that's obvious?

> If Indirect Fire (on- and off-board) can reduce a CE DRM

What on earth are you talking about?  The rules say nothing about OBA (other
than possible Air Bursts), it talks about *range from firer to target and
the elevation difference between them*.  Obviously this won't apply to OBA.
Please don't introduce red herrings, you are just confusing yourself.

Onboard fire, *no matter what the type of onboard fire*, can reduce the CE
DRM, given sufficient elevation advantage.  That *is* what the rules say,
after all.  If you don't believe what the rules are telling you, why do you
bother playing the game?

> There's also a rule that says Crews can't targeted separately by Ordnance...somewhere.

There certainly is (D.6, D5.32), and again, it has nothing to do with what I
was talking about, which was the attack vs the vehicle.

> I also think the "...Airbursts, or fire from a higher elevation..." section
> of your quote of D5.31 & D5.311 serves to differentiate between
> Indirect's, and Direct Fire's, separate application of "Height
>Advantage."

Now you're just making up rules to suit yourself.  Whether an attack can get
an Air Burst or not has nothing to do with what elevation the attack is
coming from; it's entirely based on the terrain that the target inhabits and
the type of fire directed at it (B13.3).  As for fire from a "higher
elevation", are you seriously claiming that MTRs cannot fire from an upper
elevation to a lower one?  Or are you claiming that MTRs don't use fire
attacks?  Either way you are sadly mistaken.

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