[ASLML] Website Update Announcement

Brian Pickering (ASL) bpickeringasl at myrealbox.com
Sun Feb 22 22:32:38 PST 2004


Or Alibris (www.alibris.com)

And no, I don't get paid for the recommendation either.  :-)

"Another" Brian 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aslml-bounces at asl-forums.net 
> [mailto:Aslml-bounces at asl-forums.net] On Behalf Of Brian Youse
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:28 PM
> To: Paul Kenny
> Cc: Aslml at asl-forums.net
> Subject: Re: [ASLML] Website Update Announcement
> 
> I don't mean to take money from Paul's hand but if you are 
> looking for books on the internet you are absolutely smoking 
> dope if you don't first try www.abebooks.com.
> 
> I have never had it not find an out of print book i'm looking for.
> 
> And no, i don't get paid for saying this. 8)
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Saturday, February 21, 2004, at 02:31 PM, Paul Kenny wrote:
> 
> >
> > Sorry you feel this way.  I was not trying to finagle 
> anyone.  Really 
> > didnt think it would matter to anyone that I was getting 
> referral > fees.
> >
> > For complete disclosure here is how it works for me.  If 
> you click on 
> > a link and buy from amazon I get a referral fee from 
> amazon.  Amazon 
> > is cheaper than most retail book stores, ie. Barnes and Nobles, 
> > Borders, etc.  On top of that they have a great selection and offer 
> > used books for even greater savings.
> >
> > FWIW it took quite a length of time to build that webpage and it is 
> > very preliminary, I still need to work out the bugs on it 
> and organize 
> > it better.  I think it is worthwhile to have (as a WW 2 buff) a 
> > resource for researching/browsing books on WW2.
> >
> > I apologize to those who view this as spam, it is similar to people 
> > talking about their book binding business or plano sales or dice 
> > towers.  I just view this as a useful service.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Bruce Bakken" <bebakken at hotmail.com>
> > To: homercles11 at hotmail.com, swfancher at mindspring.com, 
> > bprobst at netspace.net.au, Aslml at asl-forums.net
> > Subject: Re: [ASLML] Website Update Announcement
> > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:14:04 -0500
> >
> >>
> >> I disagree.  I think this does have something to do with ASL.  I 
> >> think everyone in this hobby has at least a passing 
> interest in WW 2.
> >>  As a designer, history books are essential.  My service 
> offers ASL 
> >> afficianados a useful resource for research, etc.
> >>
> >
> > My issue is that the original announcement came across only as a 
> > public service, as if you were doing us all a favor.  I had 
> absolutely 
> > no idea that you would receive any referral compensation.
> >
> > Perhaps I am naive not to know this.  After all, I do not 
> use Amazon, 
> > I don't know how Amazon works or pays referers, nor am I 
> particularly 
> > savvy about Internet business.
> >
> > I have absolutely no problem with you or anyone making a buck.  
> > However, I do believe that your intentions were at least partially 
> > mis-represented.  Perhaps you *would* list these links as a public 
> > service, in the interest of helping ASL players and designers, and 
> > with no desire to use this service to make money.
> >
> > I must admit though, it looks to me like you were trying to finagle 
> > people to use your website so that you could make money, without 
> > telling anyone that you were making money.  That doesn't 
> sit well with 
> > me.  I definitely won't be availing myself of your service, 
> simply for 
> > the reason that you did not divulge this information.
> >
> > Good luck on your venture.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Bakken
> >
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----Original Message Follows----
> >> From: Seth W Fancher <swfancher at mindspring.com>
> >> To: "Paul Kenny" <homercles11 at hotmail.com>,bprobst at netspace.net.au,
> >> Aslml at asl-forums.net
> >> Subject: Re: [ASLML] Website Update Announcement
> >> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:05:41 -0500
> >>
> >> I don't have a problem with you getting paid to refer people, nor 
> >> would I disagree that it is (in theory at least), a 
> service for which 
> >> compensation may be appropriate.  I do take issue with your use of 
> >> the ASLML to send what is essentially no more than spam to 
> everyone 
> >> on the list.  These books are not part of the game, nor 
> are they game 
> >> accessories or enhancements like dicetowers and other 
> accoutrements.
> >>
> >> Or would you think it appropriate that I post to the list 
> if I put a 
> >> Diaper Genie for sale on eBay?  Or offer everyone the 
> chance to visit 
> >> my webpage and pay me $100 to pick a stock for them?
> >>
> >> Good luck with your venture.  I do hope you make a lot of 
> money with 
> >> it.  But I think it is inappropriate for you to use the ASLML for 
> >> free advertising for a service that has really nothing to 
> do with >> ASL.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 09:13 AM 2/21/2004, Paul Kenny wrote:
> >>> Do  you have a problem with that?  Yes I receive a 
> referal fee for 
> >>> books people buy.  Is that a problem for you?  I think it 
> a valuable 
> >>> service to collect a group of books in one place that may be of 
> >>> interest to people. Makes doing a book search alot 
> easier.  THat is 
> >>> a service.  Do you have a problem with me performing that service 
> >>> for people?
> >>>
> >>> Sorry if you do.
> >>>
> >>> P
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----Original Message Follows----
> >>> From: Bruce Probst <bprobst at netspace.net.au>
> >>> Reply-To: bprobst at netspace.net.au
> >>> To: "Paul Kenny" <homercles11 at hotmail.com>, Aslml at asl-forums.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [ASLML] Website Update Announcement
> >>> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:44:08 +1100
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:49:31 -0500, "Paul Kenny" 
> >>> <homercles11 at hotmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >Hope you find this service useful and enjoyable.  Just go to my
> >>> website and
> >>> >follow the link to World War 2 Books.
> >>>
> >>> I think it would be appropriate for you to mention on 
> your web page 
> >>> (and in this advertising message) that your "service" 
> actually gains 
> >>> you cash/credit for redirecting customers to Amazon.
> >>>
> >>> In other words, this is not so much a "public service" 
> that you're 
> >>> providing as a means to increase your own income.
> >>>
> >>> Out of the goodness of your heart, of course.
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Bruce Probst              bprobst at netspace.net.au
> >>> Melbourne, Australia      MSTie #72759
> >>> "Why?  Because it's science, that's why!"
> >>> ASL FAQ              http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/mantis/ASLFAQ
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