[ASLML] Bounding FIrst Fire/Gun Duel

[Bruce Bakken]

Hello, Andrea.

>
>Dear Listers,
>I'd like to hear your opinion about the correct sequence of Bounding First
>Fire/Defensive First Fire/Gun Duel declaration by the Attacker/Defender...
>This is how I see it:
>
>a)Attacker expends >= 1MP (i.e. to enter a hex, perform some actions).

Okay.

>b)Defender may declare a DFF attack (D3.3 seems to imply that the Attacker
>must wait for any DFF declaration by the Defender before making his own BFF
>attack declaration).

Yes, in order for the ATTACKER to declare a Gun Duel, the DEFENDER must 
first have declared a Defensive First Fire attack.

>c)Attacker may declare a BFF attack based on the MP expenditure made in a)
>above. If the Defender declared a DFF attack (as in b) above) this will be
>resolved as a Gun Duel (C2.2401)
>

After the move is made, the DEFENDER must be given the opportunity to 
declare Defensive First Fire.  If the DEFENDER declares Defensive First 
Fire, the ATTACKER has the option to shoot first by declaring Bounding First 
Fire.  The Gun Duel is then resolved.

If the DEFENDER had chosen not to use Defensive First Fire, the ATTACKER 
could naturally then declare Bounding First Fire as normal.

>Do you find this correct? If it is, how you would handle the following
>situation?
>

Here's my opinion.

>a) Attacker expends 5MP to ascend a Crest Line.

Okay.  Note that the ATTACKER must declare the MP as it enters the hex 
(A4.2), and they are expended as a group, not individually.  Thus, when it 
enters that Location, those MP are spent.

>b) Defender decides to DFF on the 3rd MP spent.

"The DEFENDER can intervene to attempt Defensive First Fire after the 
announcement of expenditure of any MP... but must do so before the 
announcement of the next MP expenditure..."  [D3.3]

Thus, by the DEFENDER declares Defensive First Fire only the 5th MP spent, 
not the 3rd.  What you propose here is not possible, IMO.

The ATTACKER announces "5" as the total expenditure for entering the hex.  
The ATTACKER is not required to announce each MP individually as  "1. 2. 3. 
4. 5."

>c) At this point the attacker decides to use BFF on its 2nd MP.
>

An ATTACKER may declare Bounding First Fire a) prior to expending any MP 
(see C5.33); or b) after the expenditure of MP.  The MP are expended when 
they are declared.  When the ATTACKER declares "5 MP", all five MP are gone.

>1) Does the Attacker resolves its BFF attack before the DFF attack?

It depends only upon the Firer-Based and Acquisition TH DRM for each firer.  
The expenditure of MP cannot be broken down in the way that you describe.

>2) Is this still a Gun Duel?

It all depends on the TH DRM for each side.

>3) Have the Attacker/Defender decide their respective actions on each MP
>expended? So, for example, Attacker says: "to enter here I pay 5MP"; and
>then asks the Defender: "Are you firing on my 1st MP?" and so on for each 
>MP
>in the 5MP expenditure? I think that 3) is correct.
>

Number 3) is not possible.

The DEFENDER does not have the option of choosing which of the 5 expended MP 
to shoot.  It may only use Defensive First Fire after all 5 MP have been 
expended for this single action.  However, if it is lucky with ROF, it may 
find that it can fire five times.   Whether that is true can only be 
determined by making the DR.

If both sides maintain ROF, the sequence could go something like this:

1.) ATTACKER declares 5 MP to enter a Crest-Line.
2.) DEFENDER declares Defensive First Fire.
3.) ATTACKER declares Bounding First Fire.
4.) Resolve Gun Duel.  Assume DEFENDER shoots first; both shots miss; both 
sides have ROF.
5.) Because the ATTACKER expended 5 MP and the DEFENDER maintained ROF, the 
DEFENDER decides to declare another Defensive First Fire shot (2nd shot).
6.) ATTACKER declares Bounding First Fire.
7.) Resolve Gun Duel.  Assume DEFENDER shoots first; both shots miss; both 
sides have ROF.
8.) Because the ATTACKER expended 5 MP and the DEFENDER maintained ROF, the 
DEFENDER decides to declare another Defensive First Fire shot (3rd shot).
9.) ... and so on, up to five times.

As a similar example, think about this.  When an Infantry unit enters Woods 
at 2 MF, are you allowed to Defensive First Fire as "1st MF expended", then 
"2nd MF expended"?  No, you are not.  Those 2 MF are expended together for 
the single action of entering the woods.  They are not expended separately.  
You fire after the 2nd MF is expended, and if you're lucky with ROF you'll 
get two shots (one for each MF.)

The same principles apply with vehicles and the expenditure of MP.

This is my opinion.  I think it's sound, but I'm not sure what others will 
think.

Hope it helps.

Regards,
Bruce Bakken



>Thank you
>
>Andrea Fantozzi from Italy
>
>

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