[ASLML] Concealment question

Bruce Bakken bebakken at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 4 11:32:33 PST 2004


>
>On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Brian W wrote:
>
> > >Officially, you cannot set up dummies *under* real units since the real
> > >units set up first and the dummies set up second; A12.12
> >
>
>This says nothing about the location in the stack of the dummies and real
>units.  I can put my leader on the board first, and then put a squad under
>him, can't I?  Why can't I put my dummy stack under a real stack?  The
>timing seems irrelevant to stack order.
>

I concur.  As long as you follow the rules for placing OB-designated "?", 
and for creating Dummies, it doesn't matter in what sequence you place them. 
  (After all, your opponent isn't there to verify the placement order 
anyway... )

First, I believe that what A12.12 is actually saying is that OB-designated 
"?" must be placed before the gain of non-OB-designated "?", i.e. the 
concealment growth that occurs after all setup is completed.  (Mind you, you 
have to also follow the rule for non-OB "?" placement, namely that it may 
not be placed on top of any OB-designated "?", any Known unit on top of the 
Dummy must remain Known at the conclusion of setup.)

Second, even if you believe that real units *must* be placed before 
OB-designated "?", there is no restriction anywhere to be found in 2nd Ed 
ASLRB that they may not be legally placed beneath an unconcealed unit per 
A12.11 during setup, regardless of which unit was set up first.

If you follow the rules correctly for the use of OB-designated "?", and both 
players fully understand those rules, you should not have a "numbers" issue 
with "?" counters.

Finally, I've seen the Q&A issued for this rule, and I've noticed that the 
wording of the Q&A is different that the 2nd Ed wording of the rule.

I always take it as a given that 2nd Ed ASLRB takes precedence over Original 
Ed Q&A.

Thanks.

Regards,
Bruce Bakken

>Martin Snow                           <*>
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>

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