[ASLML] WA as HIP Loss

Bruce Probst bprobst at netspace.net.au
Mon Feb 2 18:26:42 PST 2004


On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 13:45:52 -0500, "Bruce Bakken" <bebakken at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>The recent WA thread caused me to "discover" that the combination of 
>Mandatory WA and HIP status can force the Hidden unit to be placed onboard 
>in certain circumstances.
>
>E.g.: Single Hidden squad in Brush, with a Wall hexside.  Enemy squad moves 
>adjacent to Wall along the shared hexside.  Mandatory WA forces the Hidden 
>unit to claim WA "as soon as possible."  For a Hidden unit, "as soon as 
>possible" is "the moment an enemy unit moves adjacent and wants to claim 
>WA."
>
>Result: Hidden unit must be placed onboard beneath a "?" and claim WA.  Even 
>if the enemy squad does not want to claim WA, the Hidden unit "must claim" 
>it.

You could play it that way.  Alternatively, if the player controlling the
moving unit neglects to ask about whether his moving unit actually gets WA
or not (i.e., he just *assumes* that he has it, without declaring it), you
could play it that the still-HIP unit has WA, but the moving player won't
know about it until the unit loses HIP and claims its WA at that time.

This latter method certainly requires a more "friendly" style of play, I
think.  In any case, a wise and aggressive moving player could demand to
know whether he has WA in all cases as he moves, and whenever a situation
comes up as you describe above, the non-moving player would indeed be forced
to lose HIP, since he's not allowed to lose WA.

Note the last sentence of B9.324 -- a HIP unit may claim its WA "at any
time", it just can't remain HIP while it does so.  I think an argument that
this overrides the B9.323 "as soon as possible" clause has merit.

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