[ASLML] Similar to the J74 question but to do with SS ELR and blurry rules.

[David Reenstra]

Hello all,

Bruce writes:

<snip>

>
>>In "Going to Church", the lower ELR is OB given, not SSR given, so
>>the entire OB has ELR = 4, with squads being replaced with
>two same class HS on
>>ELR failure and HS Disrupting on ELR failure.
>
>.... Except, suddenly, you fail to understand it.  Where is
>the exception to
>A1.23?  It's not in the rules -- indeed, the rules say exactly
>the opposite
>(which can be paraphrased as "the OB-given ELR is not
>sufficient *by itself*
>to change the ELR of underlined-morale units").  It's not on
>the scenario
>card (no SSR).  Why do you assume that A1.23 "magically" no
>longer applies?

Okay, I can see your point.  I was thinking the OB given ELR could overrule
A1.23 (kind of like it does at Night by E1.22), but an SSR is needed for that.
But what still throws me is A19.13 "[EXC: A squad with an underscored Morale
Factor is Replaced by its two broken HS (even if its ELR has dropped below
5)...]"  How can the part in parenthesis ever be relevant then?  If the OB given
ELR is < 5, then, as you say, A1.23 still rules.  Same would be true for a BI
induced ELR drop.  Neither of these two instances actually cause a unit with
underlined morale to have an ELR < 5 since neither are SSR given.  But if the
ELR < 5 *is* SSR given, then A19.132 applies and units with underlined ML are
subject to Unit Replacement and the whose EXC of A19.13 is out the window.

>
>>There is nothing vague in A19.13.
>
>Again, correct.  So why are you interpreting it incorrectly?

It's the EXC I quoted above that is clouding my understanding.

>
>To be strictly pedantic, A19.132 covers two (and only two) situations
>explicitly:
>
>First is the situation when an SSR defines underlined-morale
>units as no
>longer having underlined morale -- in which case, of course,
>they suffer all
>the "normal" penalties for ELR failure.  This is pretty
>straightforward.

Okay.

>
>The other is the situation when an OB has a mixed force of
>MMCs, some with
>and some without underlined morale.  In this situation, the
>OB-given ELR
>only applies to those units without underlined morale, and the
>rest have
>their normal (A1.23) ELR of 5, *unless there's an SSR to say
>otherwise*.
>Again, this is pretty straight-forward.

Okay.

>
>Now note the following very carefully: A19.132 does NOT describe the
>situation of "OB ELR < 5, *all* MMCs have underlined morale,
>no SSR" AT ALL.

Thanks for clearing that up.

>
>Since that situation is not covered by *any* explicit rule, we can only
>assume that all of the other rules apply as they would
>normally -- which
>means A1.23 applies, and all the MMCs have ELR 5.  Therefore, only the
>leaders will have an ELR < 5, per the OB.

I'll buy that, but I doubt I could convince any opponent to let me play the
Germans in "Going to Church" or "Frontal Assault" with the MMCs having ELR 5.
And I'd still like to know how the part of the EXC of A19.13 in parenthesis
could ever be applicable.

Dave Reenstra