[ASLML] Re: DC residual

[Bruce Bakken]

>
> >Your answer makes sense, how about this though. If the AFV had exposed 
>PRC, the
> >unit could throw the DC and attack the vulnerable PRC (not the Placement
> >process on the AFV) at 30+4 So why can't the unit throw the DC on the AFV 
>if
> >PRC aren't vulnerable?
>

During Defensive First Fire, you could only Throw the DC at the moving AFV 
if the AFV is pre-designated as the target.

During any other phase, you could Throw the DC into the AFV's Location in 
order to attack the Vulnerable PRC, but then the AFV itself would not be 
affected.

>Actually, no it can't.  A23.5 and D.8 both make it clear that DCs are *not*
>like Small Arms: in order to affect an AFV (including any Vulnerable PRC), 
>you
>have to target the AFV (D.8A).  To harm the PRC with a DC, you have to 
>target
>the AFV.
>

I assume that you are referring here to Defensive First Fire using a Thrown 
DC.  Otherwise, this statement makes no sense.

Even though normal Placement of a DC does not affect an AFV unless the AFV 
is pre-designated as the target, the Vulnerable PRC can be attacked by a DC 
with a General Collateral Attack.

Simply Place the DC in the AFV's Location (PAATC), and it detonates.  The 
AFV is unaffected, but the Vulnerable PRC are attacked with a General 
Collateral Attack (D.8B).

However, to Throw a DC at a moving AFV's Location would require that the AFV 
be the pre-designated target, since the moving AFV is the target that 
qualifies for Defensive First Fire.

>If the vehicle were unarmoured, yes, you could just throw the DC and 
>resolve
>it normally -- but because the vehicle is armoured, D.8A applies.
>

I'm not sure why you keep raising D.8, when the effect versus the Vulnerable 
PRC is not even the issue.  At issue -- I think -- is whether a moving AFV 
can be the Defensive First Fire target of a Thrown DC, and whether that 
attack leaves Residual FP.  I'm not sure why you have kept raising 
Collateral Attacks, which after all only affect how to attack the Vulnerable 
PRC.  If there are no Vulnerable PRC, then D.8 does not enter the picture at 
all.

A Thrown DC versus a moving AFV must be pre-designated as being versus the 
AFV.  When the attack is made versus the AFV, it leaves Residual FP per 
A8.2.  If there are Vulnerable PRC, those PRC are attacked as well with a 
Specific Collateral Attack (D.8A).  A Specific Collateral Attack does not 
leave Residual FP of its own.  A Specific Collateral Attack does not affect 
the amount of Residual FP left by the attack versus the AFV.

Regards,
Bruce Bakken


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