[ASLML] Re: CC Infiltration: Perry hath spoken...

[rich domovic]

Beseler <rln22 at ...> writes:

> 
> >Thus, my three closely related questions: (1)  If, in a non-ambush 
> >situation, the ATTACKER rolls an original 2, if he chooses to withdraw 
> all 
> >units, must he do so immediately, thus leaving the enemy unscathed? 
> (2)  If 
> >he elects to stay, in order to effect the usually lethal result, must 
> he 
> >suffer an attack from the eliminated DEFENDER, as per normally 
> simultaneous 
> >CC? (3) If the ATTACKER chose to \'resolve\' the original 2 as a CC 
> attack, 
> >has he lost the option of withdrawing (save a \'12\' rolled by the 
> >DEFENDER)?
> >
> 
> 1)  No.
> 2)  Not if he Withdraws first.
> 3)  No.
> 
> ....Perry
> MMP
> 
> 
> Two last comments: as Probst pointed out, an important way in which 
> infiltration differs from an ambush attack is the 'NECESSITY' of 
> withdrawal, for, if you don't, you get attacked!
> 
> Last but not least, as I believe Bakkan asked, in A18.12, the line
> 'Unless one or both sides Withdraw due to Infiltration'. How can
> both sides withdraw due to infiltration? Just couldn't come up
> with the die rolls that would make it possible. Sure you can somehow
> though...
> 
> Yours,

> Beseler


Top of the last turn, two Italian 136 half squads take turns double timing to 
reach adjoining hexes next to an American 666 squad in a two hex 1-story (by 
SSR) building. The second building hex had just been the scene of a terrible 
melee with only a DC left in the hex. The American needs to maintain control 
over the building or suffer immediate loss. The 666 fires at one of the moving 
Ities at 12 flat (-1 non-assault, +1 woods), K/3 eliminates 136.
The other CX 136 survives a 6 flat shot and out of desperation advances into 
melee with the 666. It rolls snakes at 1-6 CC which creates a 7-0 leader (+1 
Italian, +1 morale <= 6, -1 due to odds < 1-1) but didn't affect the 666 due to 
the CC's +1 for the 136's CX status.
So, the Italians could refigure the odds at 1-4, casualty reduce the 666 to a 
346 withdraw the 136 to the other building hex, leave the 7-0 behind in melee 
to face a 3-1 CC attack. The 136 then plans to pickup the DC and throw it on 
the 346 in final fire next turn, possibly helped if the 346's 3-1 CC attack 
doesn't kill the 7-0 (8 wounds him).

But alas, the point of the story, if the Ami 346 rolls his own snakes and 
generates an 8-1 leader, whether the 8-1 or 346 or both choose to withdraw or 
not.

A18.12 "Unless one or both sides Withdraw due to Infiltration (11.22), both 
attacks are re-figured using both of the originally-rolled Original DRs and the 
new leader's FP/Leadership just as if he had been there all along."

Clearly, one or both sides have withdrawn and the original attacks cannot be 
refigured using the original DRs as the 136 has withdrawn and likewise the Ami 
8-1 or 346 may also have withdrawn.
Rich