[ASLML] Stahler's PI in the Annual

[cameron.henson at us.army.mil]

I really think that the ASLRB II is more user friendly to the PI system devised by Jim Stahler ages ago. Was there much to be updated on the PI so it could be used with ASLRB II?  Once you got past the A.3 and A.4, and still had your sanity, you were home free! ;-)

Kent 
Battlin' Bastard from 'Bama

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Young <pyoung at cwhealth.net>
Date: Thursday, April 1, 2004 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: [ASLML] ASLSK vs Partrooper & PI

> Once the Rulebook and BV are printed (soon apparently on the 
> ASLRB), that
> transition will be possible. But regardless of whether they're 
> availableright now, I can't see how the $24 Starter Kit is a bad 
> way to start. If a
> player finds it's not for them, they're not out very much, and 
> still have a
> self-contained game to play if the mood ever hits them. If they do 
> get the
> bug, then that initial $24 will be a drop in the bucket compared 
> to what
> they'll pay to get into "real" ASL.
> 
> Paratrooper was designed with the large crowd of SL players in 
> mind. That
> crowd (mostly) no longer exists, having likely either already made the
> transition to ASL long ago or aging out of the hobby. What still 
> exists are
> some players still playing SL, some who tried it long ago and 
> decided not to
> take the ASL plunge, and a huge flock of potential newbies who've 
> nevertried any of it. The Starter Kit exists for them and based on 
> comments on
> Consimworld, a number of "rejected ASL long ago"-type players are
> considering this option. In a way, the Starter Kit will serve the same
> purpose of introducing ASL to these players that SL did for many 
> of us.
> 
> Paratrooper was a transition method for those already familiar 
> with the
> system. I think it was almost useless for someone with no prior 
> experience.Prior to the Starter Kit, the only effective way to 
> learn (from scratch) was
> to have an existing player teach you, in which case you might as 
> well take
> the full plunge into BV. I have to say that this may be the first 
> time I can
> remember (at least in the last several years) someone defending 
> Paratrooperas an intro module to ASL.
> 
> Peter "Self-taught in spite of all the above" Young
> Yakima, WA
> http://firstfire.blogspot.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cameron.henson at us.army.mil>
> To: "Brian Youse" <byouse at cablespeed.com>; "ASL Mailing List"
> <Aslml at asl-forums.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:52 AM
> Subject: [ASLML] ASLSK vs Partrooper & PI
> 
> 
> > Let's look at it from your point of view then. If I purchase 
> ASLSK and
> learn the rules therein, what next? Can you sit down with an 
> opponent and
> play any of the hundreds of published scenarios? Not unless that 
> personwants to teach you how to play. At some point folks are 
> going to have to
> make that decision and invest the money if they want to play the whole
> system. So why pay the additional $24?
> >
> > For most of us, we made the difficult transition from SL to ASL 
> with BV
> and the ASLRB. Back then that was how much of an investment, $80?
> Paratrooper came out to help coax those playing SL to ASL and in 
> itselfadded more rules as you progressed through the Paratrooper 
> scenarios. But
> when we finished with the transition we were versed well enough in 
> the rules
> to start playing any of the ASL scenarios.
> >
> > If ASLSK gets people interested in playing the full version of 
> ASL, great.
> Congratulations. But what then? I really hope you all suceed, I 
> just hope
> you have the business model in place to back up your ambitions.
> >
> > C. Kent Henson
> > Battlin' Bastard from 'Bama
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Youse <byouse at cablespeed.com>
> > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2004 10:02 am
> > Subject: Re: [ASLML] MMP Stormtroopers-LONG
> >
> > > > As for the ASLRB reprint, I wouldn't look for it anytime soon.
> > > I'm
> > > > glad that some people will buy and play ASLSK but I still think
> > > we had
> > > > a Programed Instruction system in place that would have done the
> > > job
> > > > with Paratrooper and its Chapter K.
> > >
> > > Jim Stahler's article has been available on our website for some
> > > time,
> > > under the ASL Articles section. Here:
> > > http://www.multimanpublishing.com/ASL/articles.php  It has been
> > > there
> > > for quite some time.
> > >
> > > However, I am much more inclined to believe that a person is more
> > > likely to take the ASL plunge on a $24 stand-alone product rather
> > > than
> > > the solution of buying the ASL rulebook ($80), Paratrooper ($30+),
> > > several maps ($10 or $24 depending on how you buy them), and
> > > downloading the PI off our website.
> > >
> > > $24 versus $120+
> > >
> > > I can't even believe I have to point what certainly seems to be
> > > obvious.
> > > The only problem with the ASL Starter Kit is that we didn't do it
> > > five
> > > years ago.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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