Folks- The ASL Starter Kit scenarios have been added to ROAR, so when you let your Newbie trounce you please enter the result. http://www.jrvdev.com/ROAR/VER1/default.asp Many thanks once again to JR & all the work he does with ROAR. Regards, Chas +++++++++++++++++ Chas Argent sidirezegh at charter.net Medford, Oregon, USA