[ASLML] A12.12

[Tate Rogers]

On Friday, November 28, 2003 10:44 PM, Owens, Michael S CPT 
[SMTP:michael.s.owens at us.army.mil] wrote:
> Let me rephrase Keith's question, since I was one of the involved parties 
in the "discussion".
>
> I have always played that when one side enters from offboard the Scenario 
Defender sets up without the Scenario Attacker around to watch as per 
A12.12.  Where I have erred in the past is that I have then allowed the 
Scenario Attacker to set up his units offboard to enter and conceal those 
offboard units -- all without the Scenario Defender looking.  I believe 
this is a case of "I've always been playing it wrong".

Nope...you've been playing it right.

> Read A12.12 again.  It states that "Thereafter, a "?" may be placed on 
top of any non-concealed [emphasis added] Good Order unit/stack before it 
enters the mapboard for the first time".  To me, this means that the units 
to enter are set up offboard unconcealed as the first action in the RPh, 
then concealed immediately before they enter (whether that entry is in the 
MPh or the APh).
>

OK, I read it again. Now you read it again. The instant a unit is placed 
off-board it automatically qualifies as "before it enters"...it hasn't 
entered...therefore it must be before it enters and thus I place a "?" 
instantly. Since no LOS exists the opponent doesn't get to see the unit 
before the "?" is placed.

> The Defender still does not have right of inspection per A12.16, since no 
LOS to the offboard units exists.
>
> What sayeth the List?  Have I always been playing it wrong? Or am I now 
missing some other rules reference?

No, you have not been playing it wrong. You are not missing a rules 
reference, but you are misunderstanding A12.12. From the beginning of time 
up until the unit enters the map board qualifies as "before it enters"...it 
could have a "?" placed at any point during that time.

Later-

Tater (One Mean Spud!)